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		<title>Comment on The legal market place &#8211; carnage or opportunity? by Client Development Training: Rising Demand vs. Fixed Supply &#124; RainmakerVT</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/10/07/the-legal-market-place-carnage-or-opportunity/#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Client Development Training: Rising Demand vs. Fixed Supply &#124; RainmakerVT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The legal market place &#8211; carnage or opportunity? (intelligentchallenge.com) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Your training was useless. Discuss. by The end of the beginning</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2010/08/03/your-training-was-useless-%c2%a0discuss/#comment-940</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] paths were breaking down and new options were emerging. This in turn has triggered a debate about how fit for purpose current legal training is - and, in particular, against the current economic backdrop, whether training as a lawyer is a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] paths were breaking down and new options were emerging. This in turn has triggered a debate about how fit for purpose current legal training is - and, in particular, against the current economic backdrop, whether training as a lawyer is a [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Money, money, money; but what would you spend it on? by The end of the beginning</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2010/05/04/cash-money-how-would-you-spend-it/#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The end of the beginning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] speculation about the possibility of UK law firms attracting external investment and the potential that brought began to become reality with the emergence of new law firm franchise models and the well [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on A light sprinkling of vertical strategy by The end of the beginning</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/03/27/a-light-sprinkling-of-vertical-strategy/#comment-938</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and differentiation, and the even more pressing drive for efficiency and (truly) effective strategy. As fast as I could write, real world examples appeared in the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and differentiation, and the even more pressing drive for efficiency and (truly) effective strategy. As fast as I could write, real world examples appeared in the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The winds of change by The end of the beginning</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2009/11/17/the-winds-of-change/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The end of the beginning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] first couple of posts were about how change was coming and that the increasing pace of the market meant traditional ways of formulating strategy were [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The end of the beginning by Shireen Smith&#8217;s Web Site &#187; UK Blawg Roundup #9 &#8211; Legal Services Act and Alternative Business Structures</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/12/05/the-end-of-the-beginning/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shireen Smith&#8217;s Web Site &#187; UK Blawg Roundup #9 &#8211; Legal Services Act and Alternative Business Structures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mark Smith (@Intchallenge) offered up both a retrospective and forward-looking piece at his blog IntelligentChallenge.com with links, comment and discussion on the ever changing landscape of the legal profession, suggesting that over the last two years &#8216;much of the innovation and drive that has been missing from so many parts of the profession for decades has suddenly been discovered and injected into its flabby buttocks&#8217;: The end of the beginning. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark Smith (@Intchallenge) offered up both a retrospective and forward-looking piece at his blog IntelligentChallenge.com with links, comment and discussion on the ever changing landscape of the legal profession, suggesting that over the last two years &#8216;much of the innovation and drive that has been missing from so many parts of the profession for decades has suddenly been discovered and injected into its flabby buttocks&#8217;: The end of the beginning. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The end of the beginning by Jordan Furlong</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/12/05/the-end-of-the-beginning/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Furlong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, I&#039;ll sincerely miss your insights here at IC -- I hope another forum soon emerges where you can share your important and very thought-provoking observations about the legal marketplace. Best wishes for all your new endeavours, whatever they may be!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I&#8217;ll sincerely miss your insights here at IC &#8212; I hope another forum soon emerges where you can share your important and very thought-provoking observations about the legal marketplace. Best wishes for all your new endeavours, whatever they may be!</p>
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		<title>Comment on You&#8217;re working hard, but are you making money? by Julian Summerhayes</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2010/06/18/youre-working-hard-but-are-you-making-money/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Summerhayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark 

I now find this debate almost entirely sterile (sorry - no I am sorry to be putting it so bluntly). I joined my first law firm in 1996 and the then senior partners were just being exposed to the notion of time recording, billable time and utilization. They hated it. And it wasn&#039;t just because of the need to do it, it was the fact that it made the job so less enjoyable when the focus was entirely, and in a self-serving way, on the partners/partnership. Previously they had spoken to the client about costs, but they were much more interested in doing the best job possible. And that&#039;s the point. Where it does it say: &quot;That client was so delighted with our service when we billed them X (and made Y profit)?&quot; Or &quot;The client never asked about the cost because they thought we cared.&quot; This is not me looking at things through Rose Coloured Specs - heaven no - but in all the discussion about &#039;money&#039; it obscures the fundamental aspect that is so missing these days: you are in business to serve. Period. The process needs to be informed by the client. You will be familiar with Valorem Law - the firm that says pay us what you think we are worth. Even if this is a stretch too far, what about offering a 100% rebate if the client is not entirely satisfied or a no quibble guarantee? How many firms have service standards for returning a phone call in 10 minutes or offering money off of the bill. I could go on. As to the money issue, I worked in 5 law firms from £3M to £40 t/o. I didn&#039;t come across many poor lawyers. Poorly paid support staff, or huge differentials with the bottom and the highest paid. Yep, there is a lot of that. Pricing is just one issue but unfortunately takes up a disproportionate amount of discussion time because it is linked to the partners profit. How about linking things more to performance? And you also have to bear in mind that legal aid work and other streams of work that are vital in some communities cannot be driven purely by profit. Enough for now I think. You probably get the point.

Best wishes
Julian

PS I look forward to seeing what the New Year brings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark </p>
<p>I now find this debate almost entirely sterile (sorry &#8211; no I am sorry to be putting it so bluntly). I joined my first law firm in 1996 and the then senior partners were just being exposed to the notion of time recording, billable time and utilization. They hated it. And it wasn&#8217;t just because of the need to do it, it was the fact that it made the job so less enjoyable when the focus was entirely, and in a self-serving way, on the partners/partnership. Previously they had spoken to the client about costs, but they were much more interested in doing the best job possible. And that&#8217;s the point. Where it does it say: &#8220;That client was so delighted with our service when we billed them X (and made Y profit)?&#8221; Or &#8220;The client never asked about the cost because they thought we cared.&#8221; This is not me looking at things through Rose Coloured Specs &#8211; heaven no &#8211; but in all the discussion about &#8216;money&#8217; it obscures the fundamental aspect that is so missing these days: you are in business to serve. Period. The process needs to be informed by the client. You will be familiar with Valorem Law &#8211; the firm that says pay us what you think we are worth. Even if this is a stretch too far, what about offering a 100% rebate if the client is not entirely satisfied or a no quibble guarantee? How many firms have service standards for returning a phone call in 10 minutes or offering money off of the bill. I could go on. As to the money issue, I worked in 5 law firms from £3M to £40 t/o. I didn&#8217;t come across many poor lawyers. Poorly paid support staff, or huge differentials with the bottom and the highest paid. Yep, there is a lot of that. Pricing is just one issue but unfortunately takes up a disproportionate amount of discussion time because it is linked to the partners profit. How about linking things more to performance? And you also have to bear in mind that legal aid work and other streams of work that are vital in some communities cannot be driven purely by profit. Enough for now I think. You probably get the point.</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Julian</p>
<p>PS I look forward to seeing what the New Year brings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The end of the beginning by Intelligent Challenge</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/12/05/the-end-of-the-beginning/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intelligent Challenge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Chris - makes the Sunday night writing seem more worthwhile!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris &#8211; makes the Sunday night writing seem more worthwhile!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The end of the beginning by Chris Sweetman</title>
		<link>http://intelligentchallenge.com/2011/12/05/the-end-of-the-beginning/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Sweetman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mark - have read every single blog and enjoyed them all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark &#8211; have read every single blog and enjoyed them all!</p>
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